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  1. WitheredFlame

    Schematica Banned?

    Well, i tried. Thank you for talking with me. Ill try to repay the favor someday.
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    Schematica Banned?

    So it being a mod is a deal breaker? One is a file that you already have, and the other is a file that you download. And in this case, download for free. It's around a 30 second difference and a couple of file moves in terms of getting the thing to work; it's not too different. Do not want to not allow mods because it is not in basic mc? Or is this a slippery slope thing and your worried that if you let this one in all the rest will come flooding in?
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    Schematica Banned?

    Do you have any thoughts on Gama Jacking then? I think it's kind of cheaty and ruins the point of Survival. It's similar in functionality to X-ray; as it lets players see things that they are not supposed to see. Don't you agree?
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    Schematica Banned?

    Strange. How long ago was this?
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    Schematica Banned?

    Opti "FINE"! Ah. Now i see why you say there is constancy. Opti Find is a slang term used to name generic mini maps. (as far as i know) Thank you for clarifying. Any thoughts on the hologram functionality?
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    Schematica Banned?

    TL;DR Creativity is not shown off by building alone. It is shown off by designing. Building alone is boring and requires no creativity. The printer lets you save time by designing in creative, then importing to survival. Designing while you build is highly ineffective and frustrating with more complex builds. So what if the build is not yours? Is it a good build? You have to question the origin of the build either way; with or without a printer. --- I show off my creativity through designing. (and building) but mostly designing. The printer helps with getting that into survival. Making something in survival is unnecessarily hard. It would be much easier to design in creative, then import. So what if the build is not yours? Is it a good build? Yes, you will have to take the origin of build the with a grain of salt, but you have to now as well! People can copy just fine without schematica. Also, GamaJacking is not banned. That is file based (one is free to download one is already in mc), and is "Enhanced to Perfection Player Vision" If you want to take ages to build something in survival that's fine, but don't limit everyone else to that ideal. It's not consistent. Just the act of placing blocks is tedious and boring; when not coupled with designing. Lets make it a bit easier, shall we?
  7. WitheredFlame

    Schematica Banned?

    Don't drag all of us down with you because you don't like it. The printer will not keep you from spending hours designing and building in survival, the printer just renders it ineffective because designing while you build is a very bad idea. So, by that logic, all calculators are a insult to people that did basic, repetitive, boring math for a living?
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    Schematica Banned?

    Using a tool to quickly build something is cheating? The printer does not stop people from making amazing builds. In fact, it enables them to import more complex ones into Diversity. Building and testing something is Survival is very, very hard; and is bound to dissuade builders from making larger builds. By that logic computer stock traders and teleporting in Diversity should also be banned? Because that would be unfair to everyone that trades stocks manually and people that build physical transportation networks? I sort of see the printer as a tool; a way to build something great in creative, test it, then import it into survival. I don't think enhanced building speed or quality for your own builds creates victims. I hear that turning up your Gama is also not banned? Players that Gama Jack can see in total darkness, there is no need to place lighting if they have good weapons. That would give one a massive advantage over other players, especially in the ore world where speed is key and being able to see far away is paramount. Personally, i did not know about Gama Jacking until 3 months ago. So any argument that any knowledge barrier is a deal breaker would not work in this scenario. I can see what you mean in saying "Minecraft SMP was not meant to be played that way", but Diversity has Instant Teleporting and Public Farms. That is not Vanilla. I think that would classify as "cheaty" as well. But that's OK, as Servers would be very boring without some of those "cheaty" things. And i don't think the printer is nearly as big of a infringement on basic MC when compared to unlimited public resources and instant transmission. Popular Responses: " This is an insult to everyone who has spent hours and hours building massive structures in survival mode on our server. " So, by that logic, all calculators are a insult to people that did basic, repetitive, boring math for a living? the printer does the boring tasks for you, while letting you design in creative. This is much less tedious, frustrating, and ineffective then designing while you build. --- " Not everyone would have schematica as well " Not everyone would have Optifind as well, but that is not banned. That obviously is not the reason why they banned it, and for good reason: It's free. Just have announcement in the chat everyone once and awhile: "Here is a list of allowed client mods and a summary of what they do: https://example.com//" --- " Minecrafters show off their creativity and commitment through building. That's the main feature of the game. " Creativity is not shown off by building/placing blocks alone. It is shown off by designing. Building/placing blocks alone is boring and requires no creativity. The printer lets you save time by designing in creative, then importing to survival. Designing while you build is highly ineffective and frustrating with more complex builds. It's the same principal with regular printers: With only a typewriter and a pencil, there is only so much that is time effective. Even the simplest addition beyond text becomes hard and prone to error. Now, with Microsoft word and regular printers, we have so much more DIVERSITY. Isn't that great? Everyone on the planet seems to think so. Minecraft is mostly a sandbox game. The main feature is what we make of it. Plus, I prefer to not make that feature any harder than what it could be. --- " The printer would make me question everything. " So what if the build is not yours? Is it a good build? Yes, you will have to take the origin of build the with a grain of salt, but you have to do some of that now as well! People can copy just fine without schematica; it's just incredibly tedious, and prone to error. --- " It is not something we want on our server, and it is not going to be changed. " Ok, i can respect that. Some people like to play games certain ways, and some things make those ways obsolete. --- TR;DR I get that some people don't like to play around the printer; they like the challenges that come without it. I'm sad that the staff doesn't see this topic the same way. Printing will not interfere with other players; it enables them to save eons of time by designing in creative, then importing to survival. Gamajacking is not banned while the Printer is. What?! One requires a download, yes, but both are not known to most. That's, like, 30 seconds worth of difference. And the Printer is Free; so both are as easily available. One is a Downloaded Edit and the other is a Edit. Creativity is not shown off by building/placing blocks alone. It is shown off by designing. Building/placing blocks alone is boring and requires no creativity. The printer lets you save time by designing in creative, then importing to survival. Designing while you build is highly ineffective and frustrating with more complex builds. People cheered and gave hoorays when the IRL printer was invented. It saved from from the Typewriter's boring, repetitive tasks and limited functionality. So what if the build is not yours? Is it a good build? You have to question the origin of the build either way; with or without a printer. So, If I'm correct, Diversity is OK with Instant Teleportation, Teleportation to Private Farms (lvl 5+), Enhanced to Perfection Player Vision, but not Enhanced To Perfection Building?
  9. WitheredFlame

    Schematica Banned?

    It has come to my attention that Schematica is not allowed on the server. This is a great tragedy for me, along with others, as i like to import buildings i made in SP and other servers. Me, all my friends, and many Diversity players would like to see this allowed, especially the printer. (Edit: I thought) There must be a compromise, I'm sure for whatever reason a great tool like this was banned we can talk about it. If this is not the right thread, please let me know and i will re post. If anyone who made the decision not to allow Schematica can explain their reasoning it would be helpful.
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